- When will the first report be sent
out to the local area administrator?
(3/14/07)
- The first report on youth common
measures was sent to local area administrators on November 20th.
WTECB plans to send quarterly reports within 30 days of federal
deadlines on a quarterly basis. Federal deadlines are
February 14, May 15, August 14, and November 14 with an additional
annual report deadline on October 1.
- Who will be sending out the report to local areas?
(3/14/07)
- Carl
Wolfhagen at the WTB will be sending out the reports to local
areas.
- When the first report is generated will it be looking at service and exit
dates retroactively to July 1, 2006 or start from exits that occur
from that day forward?
(3/14/07)
- Reports
will look retroactively at service and exit dates within the
report period, which will include dates prior to July 1, 2006. For
example, the November 2006 report contained information on exits
and participation from dates between July 1, 2004 through
September 30, 2006, depending on the measure or item reported.
Please see the attached DOL handout for further
information. The time
periods reported for each measure are described on the first page
of each quarterly report.
- What is the definition of "regular basis" when applied to
"...reports will be sent to local area administrators on a
regular basis which indicate the preliminary exit status of a
participant 60 days after program completion"? (3/14/07)
- This
question appears to refer to SKIES management reports that have
been discussed by the Common Measures work group.
These have not yet been designed.
Schedule and methods of reporting will be included in the
design of this report.
- Is the State developing a canned literacy and numeracy gains report similar
to the skill goals report? If not, how will SKIES report the new
numeracy goals? (3/14/07)
- I believe it is the intent of the Common Measure work group to
design a literacy and numeracy report similar to the canned skill
goals report. Actual
reporting to the Department of Labor will be based on queries
developed by Carl Wolfhagen for WIA reporting.
These will 1) select the youth who are required to be
included in the measure; 2) select pre-tests and post-tests; 3)
clean and standardize pre- and post-test scores to functional
levels depending on how WDCs have entered the data; 4) compare
pre- and post-test levels, and 5) produce reports by WDC.
The question of how automated this can be will depend on how
consistently the various program staff enter the data.
I am not assuming great levels of consistency at this time.
- What is the process for selecting credentialing (certificating) agencies,
schools, institutions?
(3/14/07)
- The
state’s Eligible Training
Provider (ETP) List website is being modified to include all
of the information needed to determine whether a certificate from
a program qualifies for the Certificate measure. The ETP
website currently indicates whether a program is accredited and
whether a license is required to work in the field trained
in. The site also describes the type of credential
(certificate, diploma, or degree) awarded for each training
program. Fields will be added to indicate whether the
program is approved for VA benefits and the identity of
accrediting body.
Certificates
that meet TEGL requirements can be recorded in SKIES for use in
performance results if they meet TEGL requirements, regardless of
whether the program involved is on the Eligible Training Provider
List. The criteria for
organizations that can provide vocational certificates are:
- All
accredited institutions
of higher education (qualified to participate in Federal student
financial aid programs). This
includes in state and out of state public 2 and 4-year colleges
and private colleges and private career schools that are
accredited. Accreditation
information can be found at: http://www.ope.ed.gov/accreditation/search.asp
- Professional,
industry, employer organizations, and product manufacturers that
provide certificates of occupational skills using valid reliable
assessments. Examples
include National Institute for Service Excellence certification
and software certifications by Microsoft, Novell, etc. A full
list of certificated can be found at: http://www.careeronestop.org/CREDENTIALING/CredentialingHome.asp
- Registered
apprenticeship programs, regulated by the Department of Labor
and Industries or equivalent agency in another state. The link
to Washington State’s list of approved apprenticeship programs
is: http://www.lni.wa.gov/TradesLicensing/Apprenticeship/Programs/Standards/default.asp
- Public
regulatory agencies that license or regulate the ability to use
an occupational title or practice an occupation.
In Washington State these include the Department of
Licensing ( ),
Department of Labor & Industries (Contractor Licenses and
various licenses and certificates related to the trades),
Department of Social and Health Services (Day Care Providers),
and Superintendent of Public Instruction (Teaching
Certificates). Regular
driver’s licenses and county food handler’s cards do not
have enough of a training component to qualify.
- Educational
programs approved by the Department of Veterans Affairs for VA
Benefits. The Workforce Board’s website http://www.wtb.wa.gov
will soon have a link that lists Washington StateVA approved
programs.
- Certificates
provided by the Job Corps.
Any occupational certificate granted by a State Community and
Technical College qualifies under this measure, along with any
certificate granted by an accredited or VA approved private career
school. Most
programs on the Eligible Training Provider List either meet the
accreditation or VA qualifications or can lead to a certificate from
a professional, industry, employer organization, product
manufacturer, or public regulatory agency.
Any certificate that meets TEGL requirements should be recorded
in SKIES as the appropriate type of certificate: (AA or AS, BA or
BS, Occupational License, or Occupational Certificate).
We plan to add response categories to allow recording of
Masters and PhD degrees.
In
addition, we plan to add response categories for OJT completions not
associated with a qualifying certificate and for Work Readiness
Credentials. These
certificates cannot be counted toward federal certificate measures.
However, they will continue to be counted toward State
Credential Rates.
The
Workforce Board will negotiate reductions to federal credential
measures (both with DOL and with local WDCs to the extent that local
areas rely on OJTs for training and are unable to take credit for
OJT completions on federal performance measures.
- How will the state determine the targets for the common measures and will
local areas have any input for this determination?
(3/14/07)
- The state will determine targets for
common measures using by using baselines based on state
performance. Local
area targets will be proposed based on regression analysis that
takes local economic and demographic factors into account.
When results are affected by seasonal factors, we will
include seasonal factors in the regression analysis used to set
targets.
Local areas will have the same input
into the determination of targets based on common measures that they
have had into prior targets. We
recognize that the amount of WDC input in this process has been
limited in the past. The
implementation of common measures does change Washington’s target
setting process.
- Is Running Start considered
secondary education or post-secondary education?
(11/02/06)
- Running Start permits eligible high
school juniors and seniors to enroll in classes at schools usually
considered postsecondary, because the instruction is delivered at
educational institutions such as community colleges and vocational
technical schools. , because the students who participate in Running
Start do not yet have a high school diploma or a GED, they are high
school students in secondary education.
-
- State definition of “drop-out”?
(11/02/06)
- WIA section 101 states that the term
“school dropout” means an individual who is no longer attending any
school and who has not received a secondary school diploma or its
recognized equivalent. Clearly, this federal definition of “school
dropout” excludes those who are attending alternative high schools and
those who have received their GEDs.
-
- Definition of what is considered
“adult education”?
(11/02/06)
- From the Chart of Services, 190,
Training: Adult education and literacy instruction is intended to
upgrade basic skills in order to prepare the individual for further
training, future employment, or retention in present employment.
Includes remedial reading, writing, mathematics, literacy training,
study skills, English for non-English speakers, bilingual training, and
GED preparation (including computer assisted competency training and
school to post-secondary education transition.) This group must be
offered in combination with other allowable training services (not
including customized training). If not in combination with training,
this group must be recorded as an intensive service part of this
definition is from WIA Sec.134(d)(4)(D)(viii)
-
- If a participant (youth)
is tested, pre-tested and is BSD in Math but not BSD in Adult Ed then:
If a participant (youth)
is tested, pre-tested and is BSD in Math but not BSD in Adult Ed
then: Is only the Math result included in
the LIT/NUM Measure for post test IFL attainment?
(11/02/06)
- Yes. If an out-of-school youth
participant is tested and found to be Basic Skills Deficient (BSD) in
math, but not BSD in literacy, then only the math test is included in
the Literacy/Numeracy measure.
- Is there a post test expected for the
ABE?
(11/02/06)
- NO
- If post test is given, is it included
in the measure?
(11/02/06)
- NO
- Why isn’t work keys a certificate for
older youth?
(11/02/06)
- Washington State has chosen to allow only
CASAS or TABE assessment tools for the Literacy/Numeracy measure in an
effort to maximize cross-program coordination and understanding. Beyond
the specific purpose of measuring WIA Title I-B literacy/numeracy gains,
youth service providers are not restricted from using other diagnostic
assessment tools, such as Work Keys, for addressing a youth’s learning
needs.
-
- Is ESL considered education?
(11/02/06)
- Yes
-
- Is it Adult Ed?
(11/02/06)
- Because most of the students in ESL are
adults, it could be considered Adult Education.
(11/02/06)
-
- What is Additional Support for youth?
(11/02/06)
- The State of Washington allows the local
areas to define it, and some areas have done so. For a definition in
your area, check with your local Workforce Development Council.
-
- Can we review not testing in-school
youth at all?
(11/02/06)
- Per TEGL 17-05 In-school youth are
excluded from the literacy/numeracy measure. The school system has
primary responsibility for testing students prior to graduation from
high school.
-
- When the first report is generated
will it be looking at service and exit dates retroactively to July 1,
2006 or start from exits that occur from that day forward?
(11/02/06)
- The first common measure reports prepared
in November 2006 will redefine all starts and exits using common measure
definitions, regardless of when they occurred. That report will be
looking at exits that occurred on July 1, 2004 or later. Every quarterly
report uses a reporting period that is three months more recent than the
last.
-
- What is the definition of "regular
basis" when applied to "...reports will be sent to local area
administrators on a regular basis which indicate the preliminary exit
status of a participant 60 days after program completion"?
(11/02/06)
- This will need to be determined in
collaboration with potential users as part of the design of the report.
It could be a WSMIS report available on demand, but all this needs to be
determined. This type of reporting will have to be added to the list of
reports already being requested and that list prioritized to determine
how soon the reports are designed and completed.
-
- If services start up again between 61
and 90 days will a report be sent out to the local area administrator
during the 61 to 90 day time period?
(11/02/06)
- This depends on the design. If enough
people want something like this it could be built into the reports.
-
- Will Power Users be able to pull the
‘system generated exit date’ from the data warehouse?
(11/02/06)
- That is the intent, but much needs to be
done to make sure that the date is calculated and it can be attached to
an appropriate table. Currently there is no table the SKIES Data
Warehouse that could contain an unduplicated record of starts and exits.
-
- Will the system generated date be
viewable by all users?
(11/02/06)
- Yes, the system generated date will be
viewable by all users. There is not a date of when this will be
available in SKIES.
-
- Does Year 1 of the youth literacy and
numeracy measure run from 07/01/06 to 06/30/07?
(11/02/06)
- Yes.
-
- If a participant is placed into "hold"
for 110 days, documentation is on file and they decide not to go back
into training does the employment counselor exit them with the program
completion date and preliminary outcome into SKIES as they would with
any other closure?
(11/02/06)
- The actual exit date would be based on
services, not the program completion date. We may need to come up with a
way to make final holds into something that doesn’t extend exit.
-
- How will we input the numeracy/literacy
goals, knowing that 7/1/06 we have new enrollments that fall under this
measure?
(11/02/06)
- We currently do not have numeracy/literacy
goals and do not normally input these or other goals into SKIES. The
first year of numeracy/literacy performance will be used to establish a
baseline, on which goals will eventually be based. If this question is
about how you will know if an individual participant increases by an
amount sufficient to get credit for a numeracy/literacy success, I
assume it is based on comparison between pre-test and post-test but do
not know the specifics. The WIASRD record will collect category of
assessment (like ABE or ESL), type of assessment (like CASAS) pre-test
date, pre-test score, and educational functioning level (1 to 6)
associated with the score. The same data elements are collected for
post-tests. If the post-test is within the year of first service and the
functioning level (1 to 6) is higher than pre-test, you have a success
in the reporting system.
- It appears that you will get a negative
on this measure if a) you have an out-of-school basic skills deficient
youth who does not have a pre-test; b) an out-of-school basic skills
deficient youth who has a pre-test but does not have a post-test in the
qualifying time frame; and c) one who has post-test but does not
increase a level.
-
- How will we be required to report in
SKIES for a youth who may be employed and attending post secondary
education on the seeker program field?
(11/02/06)
- You have the option of choosing a plan
outcome that indicates various educational statuses as of exit. This
information can be used to prepare WIASRD Item 670 (School Status at
Exit). The choices for this are: In HS or less; In HS Alternative;
In-School Post-HS; not attending school (less than HS degree or
equivalent), not attending school (HS Graduate or equivalent). So, if
you choose the appropriate education results for any youth instead of
Unsubsidized Employment) we will have the best chances of getting this
field prepared right.
- We do not use the “unsubsidized
employment” plan outcome in any performance measure. We get post-exit
employment information from wage records and information on post-exit
post-secondary education from cross-matches with education agencies, so
you need not do anything on the seeker program field. If you would like,
you could record post-secondary education participation in the quarters
after exit in a follow-up plan if you think we would not find a record
of it in state cross-matches with SBCTC, the four-year colleges, the
providers on the eligible training provider list, or the National
Student Clearinghouse.
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- Is the State developing a program
participant system generated exit report available for users to run?
(11/02/06)
- Yes the state is looking at a report that
would be available to users for the participants system generated exit.
It has not been determined what the report will look like.
-
- Is the State developing a program
participant extended exit date report (service received within 90 days
after program completion) available for users to run?
(11/02/06)
- Yes the state is looking at a report that
will inform users if a participant receives services within the 90 days
after completion. It has not been determined what the report will look
like.
-
- What is the exit date time frame for
the youth credential measure for Year 1, i.e. 10/01/05 to 09/30/06?
(11/02/06)
- Year 1 has already occurred. The time
frame for the youth certificate measure in that year (reported in this
year’s annual report) was October 2004 to September 2005. Year 2 will be
reported for October 2005 to September 2006. I have measured
certificates as best I can from existing data. Basically, I did not
count the “Other Credentials” as a type of certificate. Consult the
Annual Report for your results.
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- What is the exit date time frame for
the youth employment or education measure for Year 1, i.e. 10/01/05 to
09/30/06?
(11/02/06)
- Same as for youth credential measures.
The year 1 time frame for the youth employment and education measure
(reported in this year’s annual report) was October 2004 to September
2005. Year 2 will be reported for October 2005 to September 2006.
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- If re-authorization isn’t passed at
the federal level by July 1, 2007, how will this affect the
implementation of common measures? When will Washington State eliminate
the federal and state performance measures?
(11/02/06)
- I don’t know how passage of
re-authorization legislation might affect implementation of common
measures. Re-authorization is the only thing that can remove the current
federal employment and credential rates, federal older youth and younger
youth measures, and federal customer satisfaction measures. What will
happen to those measures will depend on re-authorization. If nothing
happens, nothing changes. If re-authorization re-imposes these measures,
changes them, makes new measures, or changes the common measures we will
need to wait for re-authorization to occur to find the results.
Washington State will not eliminate any federal measures until the DOL
removes them. State performance measures depend on state laws and
policies (see High Skills High Wages) and Governor’s Executive Orders
(GMAP). The Workforce Board’s state performance measures are also based
in a Governor’s Executive Order. There are no plans to eliminate state
performance measures.
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- Are carry-in participants excluded
from the 07/01/06 to 06/30/07 literacy and numeracy measure?
(11/02/06)
- Yes.
-
- If carry-in participants are not
excluded from the literacy and numeracy measure then are local areas
required to go back and record the test assignment and scoring in SKIES?
(11/02/06)
- Yes, from 07/01/06 to 06/30/07.
-
- When a youth's exit is
reactivated due to a service being received within the 90-day
period, will we have to restart a full year of follow-up for WIA
on the new common exit date? (01/04/08)
- Follow-up begins with the last
WIA service provided even if there happens to be a subsequent
partner service within the 90-day window. The subsequent non-WIA
service does extend the exit date but does not affect the WIA
follow-up start time. If however, a subsequent WIA service is
provided prior to the exit date, the follow-up period would begin
from the last WIA service. Translation - WIA follow-up begins
following the last (expected) WIA service and oftentimes equates
to the actual date of exit. Staff are not expected to wait for the
90 days to elapse before engaging in follow-up activities, or, in
anticipation that other partner services may be received by the
participant. A subsequent partner-funded service extends the point
of exit but has no bearing on the follow-up period which is linked
to the last WIA service provided to the participant.
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